Disappointing Stories 1 (Campmeeting 2014)

Hello again.  This week we begin Thursday's discussion, picking up some questions from our discussion of the Great Controversy and exploring history.  Our main question is: how do we live after disappointment?  After loss?  After evil?  How we answer this question matter immensely.

This week we talk about the Israelites, Jesus, 1844 and Louis Riel as well as the relationship between our stories and the story God is telling.  Thanks again for listening.

Please send us your questions and comments.  We love expanding the conversation.

Enjoy!

Disappointing Stories 1

Foundational Stories 2 (Campmeeting 2014)

We're back.  This week is part 2 of 3 from our second day presenting.  I managed to clean up the sound quite a bit, so I'll be updating last weeks podcast, as well.

As the discussion continues, we spend some time in discussion and exploring the significance of Sabbath, the Second Coming and what all this has to do with language learning.  Among other things, we talk more about context and how language and belief without context leaves us without the ability to speak and act in a way that reflects our "knowledge."

Thanks again for listening.

Enjoy!

Foundational Stories 2

The Great Controversy: Biblical Basis

Aaand we're back.  Thanks for sticking around as we're transitioning.  Dale's moved away, so we're figuring out the logistics and technical details of recording in two places at once.  In the meantime, I will be trying to write more here.  But this week, enjoy a new podcast.

After our last podcast I was talking with a friend and listener about the value of the Great Controversy as a narrative framework for understanding God, the Bible and life.  She asked about the Biblical basis for the narrative--a good question.  Admittedly, for Dale and I, this story is so much a part of our thought and life (and has been for so long) that it's difficult to try to go back to the beginning, to figure out how one might put this all together from just the Bible.  So, this isn't a comprehensive Bible study, but more a general discussion of some key points and ideas and relevant Bible passages and ideas.  We'd love to hear if you have any insights to add to the discussion.

Enjoy.

The Great Controversy: Biblical Basis

Hopefully we'll be back with another podcast next week.

Thinking about Community: Applying Lessons from Language Revitalization to Faith Communities

I (Dale) spent the last two weeks recording Nuxalk in Bella Coola, while also working with language teachers towards understanding the steps to making the language a part of everyday life - making a community around the language.  The process brought to my mind many questions about community building in general.

Some communities are incredibly resilient in the face of outside pressure, while others melt away. Yes, you can blame the pressure, but when you look at a range of situations, the key factor seems to be not the amount of pressure on the community, but the stories that the community uses to hold itself together.  Kill the stories, and you destroy the ability to resist.  Take away the language, take away a voice, then teach a new language and a new voice--new stories--and recovery becomes very challenging.

This means that the strength of a community is in its mechanisms for passing on stories, for using them, for speaking--the strength lies in the community's ability to make those stories central to life.

In this podcast, we look at the idea of "church"--asking why and if church is working, assuming that the role of church is to build and strengthen a different kind of community rather than just be a window dressing for an already-existent community. I bring my experience working with language revitalization to bear on the question of the purpose of education, community, and what a recognition of this purpose means for how we regard gathering together.

   Listen to "Thinking about Community"

A question to get us started - what is the "work" that we do at church? what is it we accomplish, what are we trying to accomplish, how might we better pursue those goals?

Nietzsche, Paul, Story and Practice: Spectrum Review Part 3

This week we look at a few different things, continuing on the theme of language or story breaking down.  David briefly presents his experiences reading Nietzsche and how his writings kept taking him back to Paul, then we look at the question of how the way we live can be at odds with the stories we tell  We look at this question in the context of two of the other roundtable discussions from the Third Way Conference, on Adventist story-telling and on the history of pacifism within Adventism.  Both are examples of how the stories we tell, or forget to tell, can stand at odds with how we view the world based on our beliefs and lifestyle choices.

Specturm Conference Review Part 3

Our question this week - what are stories that you were told as a child that did not mesh with the way your family lived, or with the beliefs you were raised with?

If Nothing We Do Matters, All That Matters Is What We Do

We're back.  This should be the beginning of another run of regular weekly podcasts, just in time for school.  Of course, few of you are students anymore, but whatever.  You may notice we've updated the website.  Please bear with us as we're still working out some kinks.  For those who are interested, email subscription is now up and running.  You'll find the form in the right-hand column.  There are also a few more things we'd like to get done if we can find time.


This latest podcast is one we've been working towards for a while.  It explains one of the central ideas we often return to: "if nothing we do matters, all that matters is what we do."  This statement summarizes a great many different aspects of our thinking.  I apologize in advance for the length.  We still have material left to cover, but hopefully this at least clarifies the idea.  The statement comes from an episode of "Angel" which was a spin-off of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, by one of our favourite storytellers, Joss Whedon.  The story may seem a little odd to some of you, but bear with us.  The idea is profound.  Interestingly enough, Joss Whedon once referred to this particular quote to summarize his own beliefs.  (Maybe someday we'll actually get to have this conversation with him.)

Anywayz, this should hopefully be the last podcast laying out the ideas and language we regularly return to.  Next week we're hoping to begin a series exploring the ideas presented at the "A Third Way" conference we recently returned from.  Until then, enjoy.

If Nothing We Do Matters, All That Matters Is What We Do

Open Theism with Steve Mirkovich

We're finally back with a new podcast.  It was great seeing many of you at BC Campmeeting and recording a few podcasts while we were at it.  We look forward to meeting more of you at the Adventist Forum Conference coming up in September.

This week we're happy to feature a guest: Pastor Stevan Mirkovich from Vancouver.  I've known Steve since we were in junior high together.  He has wrestled long and hard with his faith and grown much in the journey--which is certainly not over.  He is recently returned from the first Open Theism conference, so we asked him to share what "open theism" means and why it is important to him.

Steve, thanks for sharing with us.  And thank you to the staff of the Lodge at Camp Hope for graciously opening a space for us to record.

Open Theism with Steve Mirkovich

We'll be back next week with another podcast.

Reading the Bible as (Non)Fiction 2: A Brief How-to

Hey everybody.  Here's hoping we'll see you at campmeeting and can continue the discussion in person.  But for now, a new podcast, as promised (sorry about the delay, yesterday was a little crazy).

This week we take up with our previous discussion about Reading the Bible as (Non)Fiction.  We thought the last discussion might have remained a little in the abstract, so in this podcast, we try to outline some basic strategies for reading the Bible as nonfiction.  We focused on two particular techniques: close reading and contextualization.  Of course, the discussion ranges from that point.  Enjoy.  We'll be back in a few weeks with some more podcasts!  Yay!

Reading the Bible as (Non)Fiction 2: A Brief How-to

God as Other: Why so Complicated?

Well, in Dale's absence, I've managed to find a podcast we recorded a while back but haven't released yet.  I think this is a good time for it.  Our discussion starts with a question: "If God is real, why doesn't He make himself known in a way that is obvious and unmistakable?"  This ties back into our discussion about reading the Bible as non-fiction, "Made for the Story", and my thesis.  This is a common question grounded in some assumptions about God and language and faith that don't make a lot of sense.  God wants a relationship--as such, he approaches us in ways that allow us to ignore or reject him.  He does not force himself upon us, and he speaks and appears in ways that require a response, without dictating a particular response.  That responsibility is vital to faith and life.  Ultimately, God appears as the "Great Other" who challenges our self-conceptions and doesn't always act in ways that are either comprehensible or desirable from our perspective.  But that is the great difficulty of loving another rather than yourself--different choices, different actions, different words.

Enjoy.

God as Other: Why so Complicated?

Hopefully, next week we will continue our discussion of the Bible as Nonfiction with an exploration of practices of good interpretation.